John Greig Valentine1,2,3

M, #14379, b. Dec 5, 1887, d. Jul 18, 1975
Pedigree
ChartsValentine Descendants Chart
Father*William Lindsay Valentine b. Dec 23, 1864, d. May 20, 1935
Mother*Alice Brown Robertson b. circa 1866, d. Apr 21, 1954

Family

Andrewina Johnston Manson b. Apr 15, 1888, d. May 6, 1981
Children

Chronological Events

Birth*Dec 5, 1887 John Greig Valentine was born on Dec 5, 1887 at Arbroath, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom.1 
 He was the son of William Lindsay Valentine and Alice Brown Robertson. 
Occupation*1908 John Greig Valentine was a fisherman in 1908. 
Residence*1908 He lived in 1908 at Dorry, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom. 
Marriage*Jun 12, 1908 He married Andrewina Johnston Manson, daughter of Alexander Manson and Jane Alexander Youngson, on Jun 12, 1908 at Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom. 
Emigration*May 12, 1910 John Greig Valentine emigrated on May 12, 1910 from Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom, on the S.S. Numidian.2 
Immigration*May 23, 1910 He immigrated on May 23, 1910 to Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, United States.2 
Residence1920 He lived in 1920 at Cambridge, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States.4 
Residence1930 He lived in 1930 at Cambridge, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States.5 
Death*Jul 18, 1975 He died on Jul 18, 1975, at age 87 at Concord, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States.6 
Burial*Jul 21, 1975 He was buried on Jul 21, 1975 at Mount Auburn Cemetery, Cambridge, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States, Find A Grave Memorial# 213372350.7 
Book Excerpt* 
Family of John Valentine, listed in the 1920 U.S. Census are Andrina (wife), Adeline, and John, all living on 25 Seduey Street in Cambridge, MA. They rented an apartment. John and Andrina are listed as emigrated to the United States from Scotland in 1908. John's citizen status in "Pa" (pending application?), while Andrina is listed as an alien. John G. occupation is "salesman" in fish retail.

Family of John G. Valentine, listed in the 1930 U.S. Census are Andrina M. (wife), Adeline M., John O., and Margaret P., all living on 464 Green Street in Cambridge, MA. They rented an apartment for $27 per month. John G. and Andrina are listed as emigrated to the United States from Scotland in 1910. John G. is listed as a naturalized citizen, while Andrina M. is listed as an alien. John's occupation is "cutter" in a fish market. Age at marriage for John G. was 21 years; and the age of Andrina M. was 16.

1904-1913: Some 600,000 Scots, 13% of the population, emigrate for North America, the Commonwealth and elsewhere in the UK, taking with them a disproportionate share of Scotland's skills and education. Between 1921-1931 a further 400,000 Scots leave the country.

John Greig Valentine emigrated to Boston from Scotland on the S.S. Numidian which left Glasgow on May 12, 1910. The ship arrived in Boston on 23 May 1910. He was 22 years old. His occupation was Fishworker. With him was his sister, Jessie Valentine, who was 20 years old. Their last permanent residence was Aberdeen, Scotland. His former address, where his wife, Andrina, still resided was 84 Walker Rd, Torry, Aberdeen. Jessie's former residence was listed as Scotland; and the name and address of nearest relative was her mother, Alice Valentine, who lived at 33 Park St., Arbroath, Scotland.

The passenger listed above John Greig Valentine, on the List or Manifest of Alien Passengers for the United is William Thomson. The name of his nearest relative was his sister, Jane Reid, who lived at 46 Castle St., Montrose, Scotland. Some of John Valentine's ancestors lived on this same street, and by the name Thomson. Therefore, I wonder if William Thomson was a relative who accompanied John and Jessie to the United States. William Thomson's occupation was Baker. He was 38 years old. His last permanent residence was Glasgow.

The "Numidian" was a 4,836 gross ton ship, built by D&W Henderson Ltd, Glasgow in 1891 for the Allan Line. Her details were - length 400ft x beam 45.2ft, straight stem, one funnel, two masts, single screw and a speed of 13 knots. There was accommodation for 100-1st, 80-2nd and 1,000-3rd class passengers. Launched on 9/6/1891, she sailed on her maiden voyage from Liverpool to Quebec and Montreal on 20/8/1891. On 22/5/1903 she commenced her first Glasgow - New York voyage and started her last New York voyage on 28/9/1905, closing this service. She started her first Glasgow - Quebec - Montreal voyage on 21/4/1906 and between 1906 - 1914 sailed from Glasgow to Montreal, Boston or Philadelphia. In 1906 she had been downgraded to carry 2nd and 3rd class passengers only. Her last Glasgow - Halifax - Boston voyage commenced on 31/7/1914 and her last Glasgow - Quebec - Montreal - Glasgow on 24/10/1914 (arr.Glasgow 24/11/1914). She was then sold to the British Admiralty and sunk as a blockship. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P. Bonsor, vol.1, p.319] - [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 23 July 1998]

Also found was John's World War I Draft Registration Card (June 5, 1917; roll 1685072). John lived at 268 River St., Cambridge, Mass. His birthdate is listed as December 5, 1887. His occupation is Fish Cutter at F. H. Johnstone at 114 Fanueil Hall Market. He was married, with a wife and 2 children. Physical characteristics are medium height, slender build, dark hair, dark eyes.1
 

Citations

  1. [S771] Personal Knowledge - Valentine, Jack.
  2. [S807] Site - Passenger Lists - Massaachusetts 1820-1963, online at Ancestry.com.
  3. [S659] Military - U.S. WWI Draft Registration Cards 1917-1918, online at Ancestry.com.
  4. [S515] Census 1920 - United States Federal.
  5. [S516] Census 1930 - United States Federal.
  6. [S124] Massachusetts - Death Index - State Archives.
  7. [S58] Gravestones - Death Cert, Find-A-Grave, BillionGraves.